Former President Donald Trump, his former chief of staff Mark Meadows and former lawyer Rudy Giuliani are the unindicted conspirators in a Michigan “false voter” scheme linked to efforts to overturn the 2020 election, a state investigator testified Wednesday.
During a hearing on the case, Duane Silverthorn, an attorney for one of the defendants charged in the scheme, read a list of names and asked if there were any “unindicted co-conspirators” in Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s investigation.
Under cross-examination, Howard Shock, a special agent in the AG’s office, responded in the affirmative when the names of Trump, Meadows and Giuliani were read. When Trump’s ex-lawyer Jenna Ellis’ name was read out, the shocker answered “yes.”
Nessel’s office last year brought accusations Against 16 people who signed false documents claiming that Trump had defeated Democrat Joe Biden in the state.
Trump’s campaign spokesman Stephen Cheung said in a statement Wednesday that Trump was being targeted as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee and that Biden’s Democratic allies were “further abusing and abusing the power of their office in an unhindered effort to interfere.” in the presidential elections”.
Giuliani’s spokesman, Ted Goodman, said in a statement Wednesday that Giuliani was “proud to stand up for the countless Americans who have raised legitimate concerns about the 2020 U.S. presidential election.”
Meadows’ attorney suggested that Shock’s testimony was not factual, saying someone “didn’t do it like that.”
“It sounds like an opinion, not a fact,” attorney George Terwilliger told NBC News.
A spokeswoman for Ellis and Nessel’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday evening.
A grand jury in Arizona also on Wednesday Accusations of “fake voters” have been made and key aides on Trump’s plan to stay in office after losing the 2020 election. Some names have been redacted; Meadows, Giuliani and Ellis are among those charged but not yet convicted.
Trump has not been charged, but is described in the indictment as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1.”
Trump, Giuliani, Meadows and Ellis they were accused Along with 15 others indicted in Georgia last year for trying to keep Trump in office after he lost the 2020 election to Biden. Trump, Meadows and Giuliani have pleaded not guilty. Ellis he is the only one of the four defendants originally charged in this indictment who pleaded guilty.
Special counsel Jack Smith has also filed federal charges against Trump conspired To cancel the election defeat in 2020. Although not named in the indictment, Giuliani most lmaybe the first of six co-conspirators not charged in the case. Trump pleaded not guilty to all charges.